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This seams like a reasonable plan. And if Europe commits to it and takes the lead, perhaps the US would also 4 years from now (assuming we can kick Trump out, a very big assumption). I would add in the following carrot for Ukraine, EU membership. (Well what do I know about this possibility.)

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If there ever was a time that Mercutio’s curse “A plague on both your houses!” was appropriate it’s now and applies equally to Trump and Zelensky. Zelensky surely knew last Friday that he was meeting with a narcissistic sociopath who lives for praise and yet instead of buttering up the old man he demanded a degree of commitment that no president could possibly give. We are not going to send our children and grandchildren to die in defense of the Donbas if Putin (the monster) reneges on any peace agreement which he may well do. Now Trump in response to Zelensky’s emotional outburst has overreacted and cut off critical support to Ukraine which is, in fact, fighting the monster. A totally inappropriate and dangerous action. A plague indeed.

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Same comment, same response.

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Zelenskyy was set up in this meating (spelling error intended). The meating was intended to make Ukraine mince meat, dividing it up between Russia with mineral rights for the US. Such a great deal for Ukraine was on the table! Why in the world didn't Zelenskyy take it!

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